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From : 
Christopher Redmon <l24@ornl.gov>
 
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HistoricBaptist@yahoogroups.com
 
To : 
HistoricBaptist@yahoogroups.com
 
Subject : 
Re: HBS: Arguments For Free Communion
 
Date : 
Thu, 09 Jan 2003 07:42:44 -0500
 
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Dear Brother John,

Thank you for your response. I too am 110% opposed to 'open communion', have never practiced it, nor ever plan to. The question in my mind is the question of closed vs. close. On one hand I hold very tightly to congregational accountability and discipline which leans me towards 'closed'. On the other hand, I know 100's of baptized, saved, & full of the Spirit Christians who are living disciplined lives that visit us on occasion wherever we are. I would feel somewhat like a Diotrophes by excluding these, my brethren, simply because their 'letter' (whatever, scripturally, that might be) is at another congregation. Just my thoughts on the matter, I wish to do what would honor Christ above all.

Thanks again & God bless.


Chris Redmon


At 04:24 PM 1/8/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Dear Brother Chris,

In a message dated 1/8/2003 2:19:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, l24@ornl.gov writes:

If you can, please give me your views on closed communion as it might relate to the spirit of Diotrophes, as he refused to receive the saints. Could there be a parallel of 'high mindedness' that evolves in closed communion belief? I, in most part, believe as you do concerning this, but I will admit there continue to be nagging questions about it that bother me.


I am totally opposed to the spirit of Diotrophes and strongly in favor of the practice of warm Christian hospitality.  At the same time, I believe in restricted communion and oppose the practice of open communion.  Is there a contradiction between these two positions?   

I do not think Diotrophes' problems with egotism and inhospitality toward the apostles had anything to do with the Lord's Supper, but his problems related to other practical matters, such as his unwillingness to acknowledge apostolic authority and his determination to be the final authority himself.  It is not an act of inhospitality to turn away unimmersed disciples from the Lord's Table, because the Lord has shown us in His word that only immersed disciples are invited to partake of the elements.  The proper order of conversion first, baptism second, then the Lord's Supper is taught in Matthew 28:18-20 and Acts 2:41-42, and it does not appear that unimmersed disciples ever partook of the Lord's Supper during the New Testament era.  In fact, there were no unimmersed disciples.  Further restrictions are imposed upon the Lord's Supper in Paul's writings, which indicate that even immersed professing disciples who are living in sin are not proper participants in the Lord's Supper, and this
When I embraced the practice of restricted communion many years ago, I did feel at first that I was being too narrow and unloving toward unimmersed disciples of Christ, but I came to see that we cannot be more loving than the parameters of Scripture allow us to be.  In other words, love demands that we obey the teachings of God's word as our top priority; otherwise, we put the second great commandment ahead of the first great commandment, or our fellow man ahead of God. 

Restricted communion does not have to be practiced with an ugly, self-righteous, holier-than-thou spirit, but it can be practiced in a very humble manner.  When I first learned by experience as a boy that the Roman Catholic Church practices restricted communion, it did not cause me to disrespect this institution for this reason, but it gave me the impression that the RCC had a high standard in and strong conviction about this matter.  I knew that I could participate in their communion without any problem simply by becoming a member of their organization.

I suppose it all comes down to one question that has to be resolved in each of our hearts; namely, does the Bible itself teach restricted communion or unrestricted communion?  I am convinced it teaches the former, though it would be much easier to practice open communion.  It would also be much easier to preach Arminian doctrine and follow other forms of liberalism.

You might want to re-examine all of the strengths and weaknesses of restricted communion and unrestricted communion, then go with what fits best with the preponderance of Scripture.

Your friend in Christ,

John Kohler  



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